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Say is a name that was brought to England by the ancestors of the Say family when they migrated to the region after the Norman Conquest in 1066. The Say family lived in Shropshire. Their name, however, is a reference to Say, Normandy, the family's place of residence prior to the Norman Conquest of England in 1066.

Say Early Origins



The surname Say was first found in Shropshire but the first record of the name was Geoffrey de Saye, Lord of West Greenwich (11351214.) His son, Geoffrey de Saye, II (died 1230), Lord of West Greenwich was born in 1155 in West Greenwich, Kent and died in Gascoigne, Poitou, France. His son was Geoffrey de Saye (11551230), was an English nobleman, and Magna Carta surety who held lands at Edmonton (now part of London) and Sawbridgeworth (a small town and civil parish in Hertfordshire.) Stratfield Saye is a village and civil parish in Hampshire that includes the hamlets of West End Green, Fair Oak Green and Fair Cross.

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Say Spelling Variations


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Say Spelling Variations



Spelling variations in names were a common occurrence in the eras before English spelling was standardized a few hundred years ago. In the Middle Ages, even the literate regularly changed the spellings of their names as the English language incorporated elements of French, Latin, and other European languages. Many variations of the name Say have been found, including Say, Saye and others.

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Say Early History


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Say Early History



This web page shows only a small excerpt of our Say research. Another 211 words (15 lines of text) covering the years 1214, 1604, 1685, 1649, 1661, 1681, 1691, 1653, 1691, 1664 and 1666 are included under the topic Early Say History in all our PDF Extended History products and printed products wherever possible.

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Say Early Notables (pre 1700)


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Say Early Notables (pre 1700)



Outstanding amongst the family at this time was Baron Geoffrey Say; Evan Seys (1604-1685), Welsh lawyer from Swansea, Glamorgan, Attorney General under Oliver Cromwell, Recorder of Gloucester in 1649, Member of...

Another 31 words (2 lines of text) are included under the topic Early Say Notables in all our PDF Extended History products and printed products wherever possible.

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The Great Migration


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The Great Migration



For many English families, the social climate in England was oppressive and lacked opportunity for change. For such families, the shores of Ireland, Australia, and the New World beckoned. They left their homeland at great expense in ships that were overcrowded and full of disease. Many arrived after the long voyage sick, starving, and without a penny. But even those were greeted with greater opportunity than they could have experienced back home. Numerous English settlers who arrived in the United States and Canada at this time went on to make important contributions to the developing cultures of those countries. Many of those families went on to make significant contributions to the rapidly developing colonies in which they settled. Early North American records indicate many people bearing the name Say were among those contributors:

Say Settlers in United States in the 17th Century

  • George Say who settled in Barbados in 1635
  • Geo Say, aged 26, landed in Barbados in 1635
  • John Say, who arrived in Virginia in 1639
  • Hugh Say, who arrived in Virginia in 1650
  • Jane Say, who landed in Virginia in 1650
  • ... (More are available in all our PDF Extended History products and printed products wherever possible.)

Say Settlers in United States in the 18th Century

  • Kath Say, who landed in Virginia in 1701
  • Johan Mar Say, who landed in Pennsylvania in 1743

Say Settlers in United States in the 19th Century

  • Robert Say, aged 30, landed in Mobile, Ala in 1852

Say Settlers in Australia in the 19th Century

  • George Say, English convict from Somerset, who was transported aboard the "Arab" on July 3, 1822, settling in Van Diemen's Land, Australia [1]CITATION[CLOSE]
    State Library of Queensland. (Retrieved 2016, October 27) Arab voyage to Van Diemen's Land, Australia in 1822 with 155 passengers. Retrieved from http://www.convictrecords.com.au/ships/arab/1822
  • James Say, English convict from Wiltshire, who was transported aboard the "Arab" on July 3, 1822, settling in Van Diemen's Land, Australia [1]CITATION[CLOSE]
    State Library of Queensland. (Retrieved 2016, October 27) Arab voyage to Van Diemen's Land, Australia in 1822 with 155 passengers. Retrieved from http://www.convictrecords.com.au/ships/arab/1822

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Contemporary Notables of the name Say (post 1700)


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Contemporary Notables of the name Say (post 1700)



  • Thomas Say (1787-1834), American naturalist and entomologist
  • Jean-Baptiste Say (1767-1832), French economist
  • Richard Say, Bishop of Rochester

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Citations


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  1. ^ State Library of Queensland. (Retrieved 2016, October 27) Arab voyage to Van Diemen's Land, Australia in 1822 with 155 passengers. Retrieved from http://www.convictrecords.com.au/ships/arab/1822

Other References

  1. Dunkling, Leslie. Dictionary of Surnames. Toronto: Collins, 1998. Print. (ISBN 0004720598).
  2. Robb H. Amanda and Andrew Chesler. Encyclopedia of American Family Names. New York: Haper Collins, 1995. Print. (ISBN 0-06-270075-8).
  3. Samuelsen, W. David. New York City Passenger List Manifests Index 1820 - 1824. North Salt Lake, Utah: Accelerated Indexing Systems International, 1986. Print.
  4. Shirley, Evelyn Philip. Noble and Gentle Men of England Or Notes Touching The Arms and Descendants of the Ancient Knightley and Gentle Houses of England Arranged in their Respective Counties 3rd Edition. Westminster: John Bowyer Nichols and Sons, 1866. Print.
  5. Crispin, M. Jackson and Leonce Mary. Falaise Roll Recording Prominent Companions of William Duke of Normandy at the Conquest of England. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing. Print.
  6. Skordas, Guest. Ed. The Early Settlers of Maryland an Index to Names or Immigrants Complied from Records of Land Patents 1633-1680 in the Hall of Records Annapolis, Maryland. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing, 1968. Print.
  7. Ingram, Rev. James. Translator Anglo-Saxon Chronicle 1823. Print.
  8. Mills, A.D. Dictionary of English Place-Names. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1991. Print. (ISBN 0-19-869156-4).
  9. Burke, Sir Bernard. General Armory Of England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales. Ramsbury: Heraldry Today. Print.
  10. Filby, P. William and Mary K Meyer. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index in Four Volumes. Detroit: Gale Research, 1985. Print. (ISBN 0-8103-1795-8).
  11. ...

The Say Family Crest was acquired from the Houseofnames.com archives. The Say Family Crest was drawn according to heraldic standards based on published blazons. We generally include the oldest published family crest once associated with each surname.

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