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Where did the English Say family come from? What is the English Say family crest and coat of arms? When did the Say family first arrive in the United States? Where did the various branches of the family go? What is the Say family history?

Say is a name that was brought to England by the ancestors of the Say family when they migrated to the region after the Norman Conquest in 1066. The Say family lived in Shropshire. Their name, however, is a reference to Say, Normandy, the family's place of residence prior to the Norman Conquest of England in 1066.

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Spelling variations in names were a common occurrence in the eras before English spelling was standardized a few hundred years ago. In the Middle Ages, even the literate regularly changed the spellings of their names as the English language incorporated elements of French, Latin, and other European languages. Many variations of the name Say have been found, including Say, Saye and others.

First found in Shropshire where they held a family seat from very early times and were granted lands by Duke William of Normandy, their liege Lord, for their distinguished assistance at the Battle of Hastings in 1066 A.D.


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This web page shows only a small excerpt of our Say research. Another 234 words(17 lines of text) covering the year 1214 is included under the topic Early Say History in all our PDF Extended History products.

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More information is included under the topic Early Say Notables in all our PDF Extended History products.

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For many English families, the social climate in England was oppressive and lacked opportunity for change. For such families, the shores of Ireland, Australia, and the New World beckoned. They left their homeland at great expense in ships that were overcrowded and full of disease. Many arrived after the long voyage sick, starving, and without a penny. But even those were greeted with greater opportunity than they could have experienced back home. Numerous English settlers who arrived in the United States and Canada at this time went on to make important contributions to the developing cultures of those countries. Many of those families went on to make significant contributions to the rapidly developing colonies in which they settled. Early North American records indicate many people bearing the name Say were among those contributors:

Say Settlers in the United States in the 17th Century


  • George Say who settled in Barbados in 1635
  • Geo Say, aged 26, landed in Barbados in 1635
  • John Say, who arrived in Virginia in 1639
  • Hugh Say, who arrived in Virginia in 1650
  • Jane Say, who landed in Virginia in 1650


Say Settlers in the United States in the 18th Century


  • Kath Say, who landed in Virginia in 1701
  • Johan Mar Say, who landed in Pennsylvania in 1743

Say Settlers in the United States in the 19th Century


  • Robert Say, aged 30, landed in Mobile, Ala in 1852

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  • Thomas Say (1787-1834), American naturalist and entomologist
  • Richard Say, Bishop of Rochester
  • Jean-Baptiste Say (1767-1832), French economist


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  7. Colletta, John P. They Came In Ships. Salt Lake City: Ancestry, 1993. Print.
  8. Virkus, Frederick A. Ed. Immigrant Ancestors A List of 2,500 Immigrants to America Before 1750. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing, 1964. Print.
  9. Burke, Sir Bernard. Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, The Privy Council, Knightage and Compainonage. London: Burke Publishing, 1921. Print.
  10. Fairbairn. Fairbain's book of Crests of the Families of Great Britain and Ireland, 4th Edition 2 volumes in one. Baltimore: Heraldic Book Company, 1968. Print.
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The Say Family Crest was acquired from the Houseofnames.com archives. The Say Family Crest was drawn according to heraldic standards based on published blazons. We generally include the oldest published family crest once associated with each surname.

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